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Good to hear you've got it reformatting.

From memory mine took forever to do also.

After it's done, it should be accepted by the Magic, and the recordings will also show up when connected to a computer.

All good mate. Thanks for your help. I've already copied a file over and it's playing through VLC on my computer.

Edited by kiwigene

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All good mate. Thanks for your help. I've already copied a file over and it's player through VLC on my computer.

Good to hear your problem has been solved.

It might be a good idea if Pixel Magic, in a future software update, could give us the option of formatting external drives to NTFS on the Magic.

If that's not possible, maybe show a warning that formatting external drives on the Magic will render them unrecognisable to Windows (and I guess Mac also?) operating system based computers.

Edited by thebeerpig

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I wonder if they come up with the same 'technical problems' explanation as in the response that eventually arrived in my inbox. Quite curious these 'technical problems'. They seem to coincide with WIN quitting Freeview. Perhaps its all just one big coincidence.

Is anyone able to record the raw TS of channel 9 in Perth? If possible, I'd like to have a raw TS that starts from 5 minutes before the scheduled start time of any programme, till the programme actually starts, i.e. if the programme does not delay more than 1 minute, the TS will be less than 6 minutes. With this I'll be able to find out exactly what's wrong and report it back to Freeview.

(Normally the Magic TV firmware recording is not a raw TS recording - it drops unneeded stuff to save storage.)

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WIN has ceased transmitting the CRIDs in the present/following sections. It also appears that WIN has ceased providing HWW (the EPG aggregator) with its CRIDs too as the CRIDs shown in the freeview EPG for WIN are essentially constantly changing random junk*

Since all WIN areas are affected (no surprise there) I can provide you with what you want. If you nominate the specific PID you want (EIT, or even the MHEG PIDs for instance) I can do that rather than an entire transport dump as it will be considerably smaller.

*The Mentalist WIN /b64a00a632e84914862ac6358b8e7c12 /700bf31f9e2b

44bfb9c1f33fb5b745bf /1a761d8b7105401094d71cf980be3c19 /bf085df1826e440fa35b5430

be2a566d

Edited by DrP

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After reading wklie's post yesterday evening I did a software upgrade on both my Magic's. I did it through the dongles and everything went swimmingly. I reset all my preferences in the settings, put in some programs I wanted to record, then went out socializing for the night. When I got up this morning I noticed both recorders were still turned on and showing “yes?” on their screens. Something I'd never seen before. When I checked out what was going on, they were both asking me to go through the initial set up procedure again.

When I checked for the recordings I had set up after doing the software upgrade, there was no sign of any of them. I did the set up again with all my preferences, turned them both off, and then on again. I was greeted with the Magic's asking me to go through the initial set up procedure yet again. After doing a bit of trouble shooting, I found that if I left them in “fast start up mode” and turned them on and off, they worked great. If I set them up in the “power saving” mode or “all off” mode (which is what I have mine set to) they both malfunctioned and went into reset mode when turned on. As I presumed they will probably go back into "reset mode" after a power outage, instead of turning on, and keep on keeping on, like they used to, I thought I would reinstall 5.08. This reinstall worked flawlessly on one Magic, <SNIP>

Just confirming this part happened to me as well. 5.10 firmware loses all its settings when in all off power saving mode. Reverted back to 5.08, no problem.

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Just confirming this part happened to me as well. 5.10 firmware loses all its settings when in all off power saving mode. Reverted back to 5.08, no problem.

Have you done a factory reset with 5.10 before reverting back to 5.08? Thanks.

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Have you done a factory reset with 5.10 before reverting back to 5.08? Thanks.

Installed 5.10, found I had the all off standby problem, did factory reset, did 5.10 setup again to see if factory reset fixed it, lost system settings again on power down. Installed 5.08 without doing another factory reset and seems to be working.

One thing I did notice, with 5.10, after I did the first setup (before factory reset), powered down, lost system settings and put the settings back in again, it still had all the "To Do List" settings saved, all the TV programs to be recorded were still there from the previous 5.10 setup.

Edited by Submariner

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I can confirm that a factory reset does not remove timers in the "To Do List"

I have updated to 5.10 but use 'fast startup' mode without problems but for my style of useage have not noticed any difference from 5.08 apart from signal strength and quality moved to Channels menu.

Not sure of the advantages of using 'All Off' mode as you need to scroll through all the channels on startup to repopulate the EPG.

although I do not know how much power is used in the various standby modes.

Edit: Tried mine in "All Off" startup mode and booted up correctly after power down.

Edited by mwd

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I have updated to 5.10 but use 'fast startup' mode without problems but for my style of useage have not noticed any difference from 5.08 apart from signal strength and quality moved to Channels menu.

Not sure of the advantages of using 'All Off' mode as you need to scroll through all the channels on startup to repopulate the EPG.

although I do not know how much power is used in the various standby modes.

Edit: Tried mine in "All Off" startup mode and booted up correctly after power down.

Is it possible that because you used Fast Startup to begin with, the system settings were saved and when you changed to All Off the system settings were left over from your previous Fast Startup setting? Bit like the To Do List being saved. I went straight to All Off and have always used this setting. Maybe settings are not being saved in this mode correctly? I might try going to 5.10 again, but use Fast Startup first, then go to All Off, to see if that works. Only problem might be if I change a system setting in the All Off mode, will it actually save that setting or keep the old save from Fast Startup?

RE: advantage of using All Off -> Not really an advantage, more that I know that if there is a power failure, the PVR system settings will still be there and not have reset everytime it loses power and no recorded shows. I live in a regional area and get the odd electricity blackout.

Edited by Submariner

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Please try this new firmware and see if it makes any difference with respect to standby modes and to-do list factory test.

Very nice. The new MTV4000 firmware update has worked flawlessly for me so far and does not lose system settings when in All Off standby mode :thumbsup:

Thanks for the firmware.

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WIN has ceased transmitting the CRIDs in the present/following sections. It also appears that WIN has ceased providing HWW (the EPG aggregator) with its CRIDs too as the CRIDs shown in the freeview EPG for WIN are essentially constantly changing random junk*

Thanks for the info. Freeview seems to have figured out a problem with WIN data for Channel 9 in Perth. They have notified WIN about this. Let's hope WIN is still willing to fix it. (Channel 9 in Sydney has no problem.)

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It ain't just Perth. All WIN areas have the same issue. It will be interesting to see if it is 'fixed' - ie something that is simply turned off isn't really broken, its just off.

<waits for CRIDs in guide to stabilise and CRIDs to reappear in the eit>

Edited by DrP

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RE: advantage of using All Off -> Not really an advantage, more that I know that if there is a power failure, the PVR system settings will still be there and not have reset everytime it loses power and no recorded shows. I live in a regional area and get the odd electricity blackout.

I may be missing something fundamental here but the start up mode makes no difference to a power outage results unless of course if it happens in the middle of a recording. You should not lose any of your settings or timers if you get a power outage the only thing that gets wiped is the EPG data. ( test done in Fast Startup mode.)

Not having to repopulate the EPG data every time you switch on is a good enough reason IMO to use Fast Startup as default.

Edited by mwd

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New firmware just out (MTV4000PVR 5.10c AU). Anyone know what changes are included?

Compared to 5.10, it is made to attempt to address two potential firmware issues related to standby modes and to-do list factory reset in page 44-46. I'd appreciate more successful (or bug) reports of using this firmware.

Compared to previous firmware 5.08 and 4.47:

Firmware for Non-Freeview MTV4000PVR 5.10c (2012-9-11):

http://www.magictv.c...000_5_10AUc.zip

Change List:

- Improve auto extend time of EPG programme recordings for some broadcasters

- Fix a problem in 5.08 firmware that formats HDD with slightly less capacity than available

- Fix playback of Sony NEX-5 AVCHD

- Remove the RF Signal Monitor shortcut from main menu (still available in Settings -> Channel Setup)

Firmware for Freeview MTV3700TD 4.50c AU (2012-9-11):

http://www.magictv.c...700_4_50AUc.zip

Change list:

- Significantly improve the accuracy of Freeview recordings to include ending of programmes for some broadcasters

- Fix XBox 360 remote control support for color buttons in Freeview EPG

- Fix playback of Sony NEX-5 AVCHD

- Default extend end time is now 0 (after factory reset) at request of Freeview

- Remove the RF Signal Monitor shortcut from main menu (still available in Settings -> Channel Setup)

Edited by wklie

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I may be missing something fundamental here but the start up mode makes no difference to a power outage results unless of course if it happens in the middle of a recording. You should not lose any of your settings or timers if you get a power outage the only thing that gets wiped is the EPG data. ( test done in Fast Startup mode.)

Not having to repopulate the EPG data every time you switch on is a good enough reason IMO to use Fast Startup as default.

With the old 5.10 patch the startup mode did make a difference for me and I suspect some others. When I used the All Off standby mode the system settings were not being saved, and this meant all settings including the channel scan needed inputting again everytime the PVR was powered up. Does not matter now as the new 5.10c seemes to have fixed that bug for me :)

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Compared to 5.10, it is made to attempt to address two potential firmware issues related to standby modes and to-do list factory reset in page 44-46. I'd appreciate more successful (or bug) reports of using this firmware

I updated both my Magics to 5.10c Tuesday evening.

Since the update, they have been operating flawlessly, with no sign of any bugs :)

I've got to give Pixel Magic 11 out of 10 for their support to those of us who had problems with the original 5.10 update. Great stuff :thumbsup:

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Wklie, it seems that you have your finger on the pulse with regards to PixelMagic and working on the firmware of our machines. Is there any chances that you could encourage them to get a file server running on the Magic so that we can access the files across the network? Or maybe make the base linux software available so that those of us with the appropriate skills could develop some software mods to make it an even more capable device.

Matt

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get a file server running on the Magic so that we can access the files across the network?

I know this is the most requested feature...

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CRIDs have returned to WIN's present/following here. Odds on the same applies to all WIN areas. The CRIDs themselves are still a mess. It'll be interesting to see if they keep changing as frequently as they have over the past month or two. If they do, recording with a Freeview EPG powered PVR will still be problematic. Edited by DrP

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... If they do, recording with a Freeview EPG powered PVR will still be problematic.

I think they have care factor somewhere around zero on that score.

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Just wondering if 3700 users can use both the Freeview and 'Magic' EIT EPGs to set recordings I was thinking use the EIT to schedule recordings from Channel 9 and affiliates. The only thing missing out would be Series Record but it sounds like Win does not broadcast useable data for that anyway.

BTW firmware 5.10c working flawlessly here so far. I had to factory reset twice not the Magic's fault but operator error made a muckup of setting wireless network settings..

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Just wondering if 3700 users can use both the Freeview and 'Magic' EIT EPGs to set recordings I was thinking use the EIT to schedule recordings from Channel 9 and affiliates.

Yes. On 3700 Freeview EPG / Magic TV EPG can be chosen in one of the settings. (Not very convenient if this needs to be changed frequently.)

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I had exactly the same problem with my WD self powered 1tb drive some months ago. I think I then read somewhere that the Magic formats it to a linux? file system. Anyway, I then reformatted it to NTFS on my computer, and it's worked great on the Magic ever since.

I recorded the Olympics to a 3TB drive in a Sharkoon dock. Needed the dock for migrating a remote client from XP to 7x64. So put the drive in an older Antec MX-1 enclosure. Magic claimed it was unrecognized & needed formatting. (which I didn't do obviously) Since found that a 2TB drive used to record programmes in the MX-1 give the same error if I place it in the Sharkoon dock.

Have only tried once but couldn't seem to be able to get the Magic to recognize both at once, so I can transfer all recordings to the one drive.

Merv

/later

seems a staggered start solved the problem. Only turned the MX-1 on after the 3TB drive was notified as "ready" and now I can transfer direct from the MX-1 to Sharkoon.

Edited by FynrDzynr

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