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#1 JDH

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:19 PM

Item: Onkyo PR-SC5507 AV Preamp Controller + Extras !!!
Location: Sydney
Price: $1800 ono
Item Condition: As-New
Reason for selling: More Features than I need
Payment Method: Pickup prefered with cash payment or will post/courier at buyers expense
Extra Info:

As-New, purchased new from a Sydney HiFi store in late Feb 2011, comes with balance of Australian 3 year warranty (will provide original receipt with sale). Comes with all original packaging, remote, Audyssey room calibration mic, AM/FM antennas, owners manual and power cable. I'm also including seperately purchased as-new Onkyo UP-A1 Ipod dock and UP-DT1 DAB+ Digital Radio module that integrate seamlessly with the Onkyo PR-SC5507.

Basically considering selling it as it has way more features than I use and alot of the additional features I already have in other devices such as HTPC, Squeezebox for internet radio etc. Will probably go back to an simpler Rotel or Emotivia AV pre-amp. It is currently connected upto a couple of high quality Elektra Power amps (not included), so you are free to select your own brand etc and connect up with either unbalanced or balanced cables.

Below is the general specs from Onkyo and links the user manual, spec sheets, user reviews etc. As far as I can tell it is pretty much fully upto date to the current Onkyo 5509 model recently released except for ARC HDMI 1.4 return but if you have a half decent Blu Ray player such as a Oppo 93/95 etc its probably irrelevant as it will already have dual 1.4 HDMI output for secondary connection to your 3D display. The original RRP in Australia was $4500 + about $500 for the extra Onkyo modules.

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Australian Distributors Web Site
http://www.ambertech.com.au/solutions/home-entertainment/home-cinema-hi-fi-personal-audio/onkyo---authorised-internet-dealer/pre--power-amplifier-components/pr-sc5507
Onkyo UP-A1 Ipod dock
http://www.ambertech.com.au/solutions/home-entertainment/home-cinema-hi-fi-personal-audio/onkyo/accessories/up-a1
Onkyo UP-DT! DAB+ Digital Radio module
http://www.ambertech.com.au/solutions/home-entertainment/home-cinema-hi-fi-personal-audio/onkyo/accessories/up-dt1
Other info/links – manuals etc
http://www.hitechreview.com/media-players/blu-ray-players/onkyo-launches-thx-certified-blu-ray-system/21174/
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/av_components/av_separates/pr-sc5507/index.html
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/product_info/pdf/pr-sc5507_ex_leaflet.pdf
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/manuals/pdf/pr-sc5507_manual_e.pdf
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/firmware/pr-sc5507.html
Reviews:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1199778
http://www.smart-blogs.com/onkyo-prsc5507-home-cinema-amplifier-92-thx-ultra-2-certified.htm
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=135031
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/home-cinema-systems/onkyo-thx-ultra2-system-685185/review
Manuafactures Specs:

Features
  • THX® Ultra2 Plus™ Certified
  • DTS-HD Master Audio™, DTS-HD High Resolution Audio™, Dolby® TrueHD, and Dolby® Digital Plus Decoding
  • HDMI™ Version 1.3a to Support Deep Color™, x.v.Color™, LipSync, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, DVD-Audio, Super Audio CD, Multichannel PCM, and CEC
  • DSD Direct for Super Audio CD
  • HDMI Video Upscaling to 1080p with HQV Reon-VX
  • Audio and 1080p Video Processing via HDMI (1 Front/7 Rear Inputs and 2 Outputs [Main/Sub])
  • Burr-Brown 192 kHz/32-Bit DACs (PCM1795 x 6) for All Channels
  • Ultra-Low-Jitter PLL (Phase Locked Loop) Circuitry to Improve Audio Quality
  • Three TI (Aureus™) 32-Bit DSP Chips (DA830 x 1, DA788 x 2) for Advanced Processing
  • VLSC™ (Vector Linear Shaping Circuitry) for All Channels
  • ISF (Imaging Science Foundation) Video Calibration
  • Audyssey DSX™ and Dolby® Pro Logic® IIz for New Surround Channels
  • Audyssey MultEQ™ XT to Correct Room Acoustic Problems and to Calibrate Speakers
  • Audyssey Dynamic Volume™ to Maintain Optimal Listening Level and Dynamic Range
  • Audyssey Dynamic EQ™ for Loudness Correction
  • Dolby® Volume for Reference-Quality Listening Experience at Any Volume
  • Network Capability for Streaming Audio Files (MP3, WMA, WMA Lossless, FLAC, WAV, Ogg Vorbis, AAC, LPCM)
  • Internet Radio Connectivity Through vTuner
  • Certified with Windows 7 and DLNA Version 1.5
  • Bi-Amping Capability
  • Zone 2 and Zone 3 for Playback of Separate Sources in Other Rooms
  • Zone 2 Monitor Outputs (Component and Composite Video) and Zone 2/3 Subwoofer Pre Outs
  • D-sub (15 pin) Input for PC or Analog RGB
  • Universal Port for Single-Cable Connection of Optional Onkyo Dock for the iPod
  • 4 DSP Modes for Gaming: Rock, Sports, Action, and RPG (Role Playing Game)
  • 2 Independent Subwoofer Pre Outs220 W/Ch (6 Ohms, 1 kHz, 1 Channel Driven, IEC)
  • WRAT (Wide Range Amplifier Technology)
  • Push-Pull Amplification Design with Three-Stage Inverted Darlington Circuitry to Remove Distortion
  • All Discrete Output Stage Circuitry
  • Massive Toroidal Transformer
  • Two Large, Customized, 22,000 µF Capacitors for Effective Power Supply
  • Audio-Tuned Reference Capacitors for Each Channel
  • Large, Custom-Designed Power Transistors to Drive High Currents
  • Low-Impedance, Copper Bus Plates for Perfect Ground Potential
  • High-Current, Low-Impedance Circuit Boards with Thick Copper Foil (70 µm)
  • Flat, High-Rigidity, Anti-Resonant Chassis
  • Gold-Plated XLR Inputs
  • Machined Solid Brass RCA Inputs
  • Gold-Plated, Color-Coded, Banana Plug-Compatible, Transparent Speaker Posts
  • Multi-Zone Capability (up to Zone 3)*
  • Bi-Amping Capability*
  • 12 V Trigger Input
  • Auto Power Down Function
  • Aluminum Front Panel
Photos are also attached at the SNA web site but will try to add some links to photos if needed.

Edited by JDH, 05 February 2012 - 06:27 PM.


#2 yorac

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:28 PM

Outstanding kit mate, good luck with the sale...............

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 07:46 PM

Weekend Bump !!!

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:50 PM

Note additional extras mentioned in the original add, ie. Onkyo ipod dock and external DAB+ module have now been sold seperately, as such I have lowered my asking price for the Onkyo 5507 from $1800 to 1600 ono.

JDH.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 07:02 PM

That's a screaming bargain! Goodluck with the sale.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:00 PM

Been offered $1400, looking for $1500.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 05:23 PM

Tuesday Bump !!!

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 07:44 PM

Bump !!!

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:05 PM

Bump!!!

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:09 PM

$1500 is crazy cheap. I can't understand why this hasn't sold.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:43 PM

Just curious can you connect normal banana plug speakers into XLR with an adapter ? Or would this totally defeat the purpose, and ruin the benefits of XLR in the first place?

Edited by Htpc-online, 03 March 2012 - 12:55 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:58 PM

Just curious can you connect normal banana plug speakers into XLR with an adapter ? Or would this totally defeat the purpose, and ruin the benefits of XLR in the first place?


dont understand this question. op is selling a pre amp so you wouldnt be hooking up speakers to it via banana connections. you would need to hook up a power amp to this pre amp either via xlr or rca's and then you would be able to hook up your speakers to the power amp :)

xlrs benefit in the home is pretty much very limited to non existent. you also need to be utilising a fully balanced equipment all the way through the signal path to gain any benefit. there are good threads in the htfaq sticky re balanced xlrs

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 01:00 PM

Just curious can you connect normal banana plug speakers into XLR with an adapter ? Or would this totally defeat the purpose, and ruin the benefits of XLR in the first place?


The 5507 is a processor only, you need a separate power amp to drive speakers. XLR connectors are not for speakers, they're for interconnects.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 01:31 PM

xlrs benefit in the home is pretty much very limited to non existent. you also need to be utilising a fully balanced equipment all the way through the signal path to gain any benefit. there are good threads in the htfaq sticky re balanced xlrs


GROUND LOOP!

From what I have read Al, xlrs remove any possibility of ground loop problems via the pre/pro and power amp ... in my case they would have broken the ground loop meaning I would have saved weeks of trouble shooting and searching.

From what I understand it is because they are balanced that there is no common "ground" for the ground loop to travel through?

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 01:41 PM

GROUND LOOP!

From what I have read Al, xlrs remove any possibility of ground loop problems via the pre/pro and power amp ... in my case they would have broken the ground loop meaning I would have saved weeks of trouble shooting and searching.

From what I understand it is because they are balanced that there is no common "ground" for the ground loop to travel through?


chops they can also be the biggest contributor. because the way grounding is handled in not trully balanced gear using balanced connections and interfacing with unbalanced equipment.

in my opinion if going balanced go all the way through, otherwise waste of time !

below a good article, going through the intricacies and common pitfalls :)

http://www.rane.com/note151.html

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:01 PM

I ment for active speakers ;)

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:14 PM

I ment for active speakers ;)


you mentioned,

"can you connect normal banana plug speakers" hence the confusion :blush:

you wouldnt be using "banana" connectors for active speakers though would you ? what active speakers have banana plugs ? that would be quite dangerous as someone could accidentally connect high level outputs from a power amp into their low level inputs ? what active speakers do you have ?

youd have to use either RCAs or XLRs I would have thought ?

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:36 PM

I didn't realise as i don't own active speakers yet. I would like to buy some Seaton speakers in the future though. I thought you still had to run speaker wire to each speaker, as well as the XLR even if they were active? Or do you just need to run XLR cable from pre amp to seaton speaker?

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:41 PM

I didn't realise as i don't own active speakers yet. I would like to buy some Seaton speakers in the future though. I thought you still had to run speaker wire to each speaker, as well as the XLR even if they were active? Or do you just need to run XLR cable from pre amp to seaton speaker?


no most definitely if active speakers youd be running line level interconnects as opposed to speaker wire. active speakers are hooked up just as your sub is (subwoofers are active) with the seatons youd have to confirm whether has RCAs or XLRs. he probably provides or if not you can get an adapter for xlr to rca so can hook up either way. I'm not a big fan of adapters though, often a good source of hum and noise and such !

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 04:30 AM

As Al says htpc; adapters are a waste when straight unbalanced is as good [depending on balanced/unbalanced on the active speakers B) ] Seem to recall seaton supplying custom line level cables ??

Adapters are available that convert XLR to RCA signals and vice versa. They also convert XLR inputs to standard 1/4- and 1/8-inch headphone and microphone jacks. When using these converters, it's important to note that the balanced electronic benefits of the XLR standard are lost. This is due to the RCA stereo cable's inability to eliminate ground noise and interference from the signal



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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:05 AM

$1500 is crazy cheap. I can't understand why this hasn't sold.

Agree mate, easily as good as the Integra's other than a few bells and whistles.......

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:40 AM

I agree great price for somethign as new, locally purchased with full warranty and with goodies thrown in. suprised hasnt gone. be an ideal step for someone looking to move from avr to separates :)

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 09:00 AM

Definitely a great buy for someone, I think the hurdle for most would be not having an amp to partner it with would add to the overall cost.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 09:05 AM

Definitely a great buy for someone, I think the hurdle for most would be not having an amp to partner it with would add to the overall cost.


up until the other day seaton had his elektra up for $1600, would have been a steal for both at $3100.........

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:37 AM

I didn't realise as i don't own active speakers yet. I would like to buy some Seaton speakers in the future though. I thought you still had to run speaker wire to each speaker, as well as the XLR even if they were active? Or do you just need to run XLR cable from pre amp to seaton speaker?


There are 4 types of connections on an Active Seaton speaker:

1. Neutrik PowerCON - Line Level Input Power
2. Neutrik SpeakON - Line Level Signal Output 12A Connection
3. XLR Male - Looping Output
4. XLR Female - Signal Input

For home operation you need No #1 and No #4. No #2 can be used to daisy chain to other speakers (More often than not another Subwoofer given the Monoraul nature of the signal). I use No #3 for connecting into a Mic Pre-Amp when performing calibration measurements.

Mark provides RCA/XLR adapters if required although for signal purity and to gain the benefits of a Balanced Cable/Signal it is best to stick to Balanced through the entire chain (Although there a precious few components/Processors that enjoy a dedicated Balanced topology like Al's Denon Pre-Amp for example).

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Good luck to the OP with his sale. It's a bargain.

Edited by BladeRnR, 04 March 2012 - 11:39 AM.