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#176 Mcrackn

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 04:46 PM

DVD Shrink - create vobs on hard drive
VideoRedo - join vobs.

Try the search for more info (top right of the page)

#177 karollt

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 06:38 PM

thanks, but is it possible with videoRedo to leave all the sound tracks?

#178 digitaladvisor

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 03:49 PM

There are solutions to all issues encountered by the following but this is PC centric ony not for the MAC environment:

Topic 1

1. HD recording of DTV is a NON-issue provided there is some understanding of AC3 sound.

a. I recommend forgetting all programs and just go and purchase VideoREDO - the solution is staring everyone in the face. What VideoRedo can do is simply FLAG the AC3 track correctly for DVD authoring. HOWEVER please be aware the LIMITATION is on the VIDEO bit rate and resolution - NO DVD compatiblity exists in any HD MPEG format or otherwise.
b. Once the VideoRedo fags the AC3 for DVD authoring you also select the relevant Video Stream - in this case CHOOSE only SD or simply the 576i format. SAVE.
c. Now ANY DVD authoring package can suffice BUT only if that PACKAGE is AC3 / DD aware within the audio multiplexing for DVD authoring. In this case I have used Nero 7 on TONS of DVDs that ALL WORK FALWLESSLY in a DVD player in DD or PCM or whatever. IF nero 7 has to handle AC3, it handles it very very well. If the MPEG DOES fit to a DVD R disk (SINGLE layer) it will SHRINK down the MPEG to fit like DVD shrink. In fact Nero 7 incorporates the DVD Shrink into its DVD authoring engine.
d. It is also a great time to remove all ads in Videoredo well before authoring.

It would appear that some DO not understand that you what a TS ENTIRE STREAM is and a partial STREAM.

Here's the most important part - YOU must use a program that decifers and understands all those video streams along with Titling**, along with Sound streams.

A FULL TS stream from Nine Netwrok MAY consist of the following:

1. SD 576i Video
2. HD 1080i Video
3. AC3 in ANY flavour - Dolby Logic OR Dolby Digital 2 OR dolby Digital 5.1
4. PCM - MPEG based sound.
5. The teletext stream for subtitles
6. The program guide data
7. The program guide channel

A simple TS stream from Nine Network may consist of only the SELECTED VIDEO SD or HD and all the above.

Some softwares allows the simple TS to be recorded but with some modification to make the stream slightly more in line MPEG compatibility.

Topic 2

DIRECT BURN or DIRECT DVD authoring of Digital TV or DIRECT to DivX etc..................

Pinnacle Media Centre* and few others non specified (I cannot test every program) have the facility to EITHER burn DIRECTLY to a DVD RW in PVR format OR direct AUTHORED DVD to Hard drive. But the choice is limited to your resources. For example if an attempt is made to choose a HD TV channel to re-encode to DVD compatiblity you are asking your computer to chew up huge resources in that process. Recording a SD channel diorectly to DVD authoring is easy for most faster sepcced machines these days.

I sopmetimes wonder whether some under the significance of 576i MPEG, 1080i MPEG, 720p MPEg and 576p MPEG.

Presently here in Brisbane the formats are as follows:

HD SBS 576p
SD SBS 576i
HD Nine 1080i
SD Nine 576i
HD Seven 1080i <--- this is not a typo as Seven has now switched from 576p to 1080i !
SD Seven 576i
HD Two 720p
SD Two 576i
HD Ten 1080i
SD Ten 576i

Australian HD digital TV transmissions DO not always carry AC3 streams.

* Pinnacle Media Centre comes bundled with Pinnacle Digital Tuner devices (USB, PIC and PCI Express)


** VideRedo DOES NOT DO and is NOT capable in grabbing subtitles at this point in time as Australia. We use a TeleText stream (801) page for the hearing impaired. This is because the teletext format requires fair amount of encoding by a specialised coding technique not in the program at present. This has to be done to turn Teletext into a DVD compatable subtitling file. A version has been promised to handle this issue and so far has not eventuated.

I know some have stated the ongoing issues but I would consider spending a bit of your dosh on VideoRedo and Nero 7 that resolve these many issues. DVD authoring program - can be EXPENSIVE when it comes to EXTRAS you need like AC3 to encode to your DVD compatible disc.

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Posted 26 March 2008 - 02:00 AM

I have never had any problem using the original AC3 audio when converting to DVD. I simply use projectx and muxman (or rejig), for SD TV. I use projectx only, so I can make use of the captions.
For HDTV I use projectx then convert the files to xvid using automkv and I still use the original AC3 file.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 03:49 PM

I would like to convert 2 56 minutes program recordings from the ABC, from it's original size to about 400-600MB. I use DVDX to do most of my recordings, but unfortunately it does not convert the full 56 minute program itself and stops at the 26 minute mark into the program.

Apart from DVDX can anyone recommend me any other video software that will allow me to compress 2 gig file recordings?

At the moment doing a google search, so any suggestions from here will be greatly appreciated.

Burning to DVD is not an option.

Cheers
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 06:08 PM

I would like to convert 2 56 minutes program recordings from the ABC, from it's original size to about 400-600MB. I use DVDX to do most of my recordings, but unfortunately it does not convert the full 56 minute program itself and stops at the 26 minute mark into the program.

Apart from DVDX can anyone recommend me any other video software that will allow me to compress 2 gig file recordings?

At the moment doing a google search, so any suggestions from here will be greatly appreciated.

Burning to DVD is not an option.

Cheers
Dan


Sometimes there are bad frames in the MPEG recorded. I find that VideoRedo can fix with Quick Stream fix these issues, SOMETIMES.

If it is really a bad section of frames on which it hangs should be chopped out and removed with VideoRedo. By removing the offending corrupted frames sometimes you then can recode okay.

You could try Nero 7 or 8 to compress to H.264.

A free alternative to RECODE the whole lot is called SUPER

Web site: http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html

I had a recording that would NOT master to DVD so I encoded with Super and it worked. I used Nero 8 to burn / author.

Super not only encodes to encoders in native MPEG 2 containers but also a myriad of other encoder codecs such Divx.

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#182 dan2007

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 07:15 PM

Cool thanks for the info mate :) I will give Video Re-Do solution a try first and see how I go then give Super a shot. :) Thanks for the help. Will let you know how it turns out. :)

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 12:13 PM

Just an update now, even though it sort of fixed the bad frames, DVDX still stopped at the 26 minute mark , anyway I just tried out that Super program and it works like a charm :)

I've done the first Standard digital recording and converted it to 414MB which is a decent size. What about the HD recordings, I have the Great outdoors repeat from 7HD that I recorded and that's a 5GIG file, will edit out the commercials. What setting would I need to have that on so that it encodes probably? Is that where H.264 setting comes in that I see in the encoding area?

Top program. Bye bye DVDX :)
Regards
Dan

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 05:27 PM

I am a newcomer and whilst this discussion is on converting video files to DVD, I want to find about the reverse action
I would like to store my DVDs on a Hard disk with the best format and least space occupying-I know the concept of AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders etc. But is it better to backit up in ISO format (DVD shrink allows that)or is there something better format? Also advice me the program to be used to create this format
I have added the same question in another thread in the hope I shall get an answer to this

#185 ajm

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 05:51 PM

best format and least space occupying


These two concepts are pretty much at complete odds. Generally speaking, higher quality means more space and vice versa. The other question is what are you playing these files back on? Ultimately the "best" way to go about it depends on what you're viewing the files on and how small you want to make them.

If you are looking to re-encode DVD MPEG2 to something else (ie MPEG4 or H264) then you can use something like Handbrake which will give you a multitude of options that will vary the size (and quality) of the file and let you chose from a number of advances video encoding tools. Again, generally speaking, the larger the screen the more you'll see the loss of quality from compression. By the same token, if you have a small screen you might not notice the compression so much, so you might find you can compress the file down to something that's quite small.

If you want to keep the DVD structure and keep it in the same MPEG2 format you can use DVD Shrink to delete the parts of the disc that you don't want (extras, soundtracks, subs etc). This will let you maintain the quality of the picture and audio but isnt going to make a massive difference to the size of the file.

Basically, to answer your question you might want to have a think about what you want at the end of the process.

#186 hsd

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 12:26 PM

I certainly will be watching them on 42"+ LCD TV
So what you are saying is using the standard video audio folder is the way to go?
What about ISO-If I kept that it will play OK? Right? That way I just have to back up as an ISO image and then drag and drop it to the hard disk

What about MKV files? Are they smaller/better quality?
Don't want to spend time recoding etc....too many DVDs to do that
SD

#187 diesel

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Posted 22 August 2009 - 04:24 PM

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#188 chloemarqz

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 05:55 PM

I Strongly recommend you create your DVD movie on hard disk, play it and jump ahead to make sure the sound is OK and the lips are in sync. Then burn it to a dvd as a separate step. That would be nice.



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#189 Terrian

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 06:50 AM

I have been using IFrame (http://jonkers.net.au/) to convert from .ts to mpg, then TMPGEnc MPEG Editor to edit out unwanted parts, only done 5 movies so far, but all have been fine, no sync issues etc.

Fro mpg use whatever to convert to & burn dvd, I just save the movie onto the HD

#190 Riv39

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 09:19 PM

Can anyone suggest a good program for converting mt2s to mkv running on vista 64bit OS?

#191 woodvaliens

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