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#1 XxDeadlyxX

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 09:17 AM

Since so many Australian releases are cropped, it's about time a list was made so people are aware of which releases to avoid. All the below titles have an original aspect ratio (OAR) of 2.35:1 (except where stated otherwise), however have been cropped to 1.78:1 for Australian home video release on Blu-ray. This means they can have missing picture info on the left or right of the picture, or both. Also included are titles that are open matte - ie. more picture than the original ratio - they are marked as so.

There are some cases here where the OAR is not 2.35:1, but another ratio like 1.33:1, but has been cropped on the top and bottom instead. If you have a suggestion for an addition that is for a movie that is not 2.35:1, I can add it but only if there is a significant amount of picture lost - not just a few percent like what happens when a 1.85:1 film is cropped slightly to fit to 1.78:1 like what happens on a lot of Warner Brothers and Paramount Blu-rays where they don't release it in 1.85:1 OAR.



Cropped Releases

22 Bullets (Roadshow) - French version is OAR - Canadian version is OAR
And When Did You Last See Your Father? (Icon) - only released in AU
Astro Boy (Sony/Hoyts) - US version is OAR
Assassination of a High School President (All Interactive Entertainment) - German version is OAR, need confirmation
Awake (Icon) - US version is OAR
Black Death (Eagle Entertainment) - UK version is OAR
Bran Nue Dae (Roadshow) - US version is OAR
Buried (Icon) - starts off as 2.35:1 but then changes to cropped - US version is OAR
Brooklyn Rules (Icon) - German version may be OAR.
Cedar Boys (Sony) - only released in AU
Centurion (Roadshow) - US version is OAR
Death Defying Acts (Icon Home Entertainment) - German version is OAR
Doghouse (Eagle Entertainment) - UK version is OAR
Dylan Dog: Dead of Night (Reel Entertainment) - US version is OAR
Elephant White (Roadshow) - US version is OAR
Everything Must Go (Madman) - US version is OAR
From Paris With Love (Sony) - US version is OAR
Forever Strong (Eagle Entertainment) - only released in AU
Gun (Eagle Entertainment) - US version is OAR
Hesher (Universal) - US version is OAR
I Love You Too (Roadshow) - only released in AU
Home of the Brave (All Interactive Entertainment) - US version is OAR
Human Contract (All Interactive Entertainment) - only released in AU
Larry Crowne (Pinnacle Films) - US version is OAR
Mother's Day (Reel) - UK version is OAR
Powder Blue (All Interactive Entertainment) - US version is OAR
Snow Flower and the Secret Fan (Pinnacle Films) - US version is OAR
Strange Bedfellows (Icon) - starts off as 2.35:1 but then changes to cropped - only released in AU
Stone (Roadshow) - US version is OAR
Surveillance (Warner) - US version is OAR
Tamara Drewe (Roadshow) - US version is OAR - UK version is OAR
Ten Canoes (Madman) - only released in AU
The Adventures of Tintin (Madman) - cropped from 4x3 to 16x9
The Blair Witch Project (Icon) - cropped from 4x3 to 16x9 - US version is OAR
The Code (All Interactive Entertainment) - US version is OAR
The First Grader (Roadshow) - Cropped/ Reframing. Depending on the Scene, there was either heaps of info missing from the Left or the Right
The Hitcher (Icon) - Canada version is OAR
The Maiden Heist (AI Entertainment/Pinnacle) - Canada version is OAR
The Other Man (Roadshow) - US version is OAR
The Red Baron (Eagle Entertainment) - UK version is OAR
The Resident (Roadshow) - US version is OAR
Thunderbirds (Reel) - cropped from 4x3 to 16x9, but more info on left side
War, Inc. (All Interactive Entertainment) - US version is OAR


Open Matte or reframing

100 Feet (Icon) - open matte & reframing - US version is OAR - more picture info on top/bottom, less on sides
Arn: The Knight Templar (Eagle) - reframing - US version is OAR - This includes both the Australian regular and Collector's editions
Battle for Haditha (Eagle Entertainment) - open matte - more picture top/bottom and ~5% more on the sides in certain scenes
Brothers (Roadshow) - open matte - US version is OAR
Dear John (Roadshow) - open matte - US version is OAR
Faces in the Crowd (Roadshow) - open matte & reframing - US version is OAR
Feast (Reel) - open matte - US version is OAR
Green Street Hooligans (Reel) - open matte & reframing - German version is OAR
I Melt With You (Universal) - US version is OAR - Majority of the film was Open Matte, But I noticed one scene was cropped . US is OAR.
New Town Killers (Eagle Entertainment) - open matte - UK version is the same, no OAR version available
Ninja (All Interactive Entertainment) - open matte & reframing - US version is OAR
Planet Terror (Roadshow) - open matte (director approved) - German and US versions are OAR (as Grindhouse double feature)
Road Train (Pinnacle Films) - open matte - only released in AU
Smart People (Icon) - open matte & reframing - US version is OAR - more picture info on top/bottom, less on sides
Solomon Kane (Roadshow) - reframing - UK version is OAR
Stage Beauty (Icon) - open matte & reframing - only released in AU, more picture info on top/bottom, less on sides
Tekken (Anchor Bay) - reframing - German version is OAR
The Butterfly Effect 3: Revelations (Icon) - open matte & reframing - US version is OAR - more picture info on top/bottom, less on sides
The Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader (20th Century Fox) - open matte & reframing - director approved, all worldwide releases are the same
The Collector (Roadshow) - open matte & reframing - US version is OAR - more picture info on top/bottom, less on sides
The Evil Dead (Sony) - reframing (director approved) - US version is 4:3 OAR - top/bottom are cropped in reframing from 4:3 to 16:9
The Gift (aka Echelon Conspiracy) (All Interactive Entertainment) - open matte & reframing - US version is OAR - more picture info on top/bottom, less on sides
The Killing Machine (Icon) - open matte - US version is OAR
The King of Fighters (Eagle Entertainment) - open matte - German version is OAR
The Rebound (Roadshow) - open matte & reframing - UK version is OAR - more picture info on top/bottom, less on sides
The Reef (Pinnacle/All Interactive Entertainment) - open matte - US version is OAR
The Warrior's Way (Sony/Hoyts) - open matte - US version is OAR
Universal Soldier Regeneration (Revolution Entertainment) - open matte & reframing - US version is OAR




If anyone has any more to add please share!

Edited by XxDeadlyxX, 06 June 2012 - 09:51 PM.


#2 Ryan

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 09:26 AM

Good work young man :D I wish it didnt have to be done though :(

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 12:58 PM

Doesn't really bother me, I'm not interested in any of those movies. ;)

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 01:00 PM

****, I have a couple of them.

Coming to a trade thread on a different forum soon, me thinks.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 01:08 PM

Doesn't really bother me, I'm not interested in any of those movies. ;)


There are definitely more than that, most of those are just ones I myself have found, but the amount of culprit titles is worrying.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 02:11 PM

Wasn't Avatar cropped?

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 02:14 PM

Wasn't Avatar cropped?


No. :P

Actually the 2.35:1 version seen in theaters was technically cropped, as it was shot in 16:9 and matted to 2.35:1 for some cinemas. So the 1.78:1 ratio on the Blu-ray is the full picture as intended by Cameron.

Edited by XxDeadlyxX, 06 March 2011 - 02:20 PM.


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Posted 06 March 2011 - 02:52 PM

Sorry I meant crapped. Wasn't it crapped?
;)

(Cheers. Thought the opposite before now).

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 03:01 PM

Sorry I meant crapped. Wasn't it crapped?
;)

(Cheers. Thought the opposite before now).


Oh, you'll have to ask yorac about that one :lol:

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 04:02 PM

Would be inetersting (though some work) to list alternatives that aren't cropped. Unless of course this list means the US version isn't without exception?

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 04:07 PM

Would be inetersting (though some work) to list alternatives that aren't cropped. Unless of course this list means the US version isn't without exception?


Done ;)

And yeh the US versions are the best in almost all cases, in fact I don't think I've seen a US release that's cropped. AU must be the worst place to be anywhere in the world for dodgy releases <_< Except Alliance Canada, some of their releases are just as bad.

Edited by XxDeadlyxX, 06 March 2011 - 06:08 PM.


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Posted 06 March 2011 - 04:08 PM

meet joe black, watched it last night. great movie. but yeah is a cropped release.

uk edition actually. not sure if released in oz :)

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 04:44 PM

meet joe black, watched it last night. great movie. but yeah is a cropped release.

uk edition actually. not sure if released in oz :)


Are you sure? The aspect ratio of that movie is 1.85:1. Also it's released by Universal both in the UK and here and they have never cropped a film on Blu-ray so it's unlikely.

Unless you mean it's cropped slightly from the DVD (ie. different framing?). This list is mainly intended for 2.35:1 films that have been cropped... I'm not aware of any 1.85:1 film that has been cropped on Blu-ray, except for what some studios do (ie. Warner Brothers) where they make it fill the whole 1.78:1 frame instead which is a negligible difference.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 04:51 PM

Are you sure? The aspect ratio of that movie is 1.85:1. Also it's released by Universal both in the UK and here and they have never cropped a film on Blu-ray so it's unlikely.

Unless you mean it's cropped slightly from the DVD (ie. different framing?). This list is mainly intended for 2.35:1 films that have been cropped... I'm not aware of any 1.85:1 film that has been cropped on Blu-ray, except for what some studios do (ie. Warner Brothers) where they make it fill the whole 1.78:1 frame instead which is a negligible difference.


its 16:9 (or 1.78:1) on blu-ray yes, so yeah not the original aspect ratio as per imdb
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119643/

which was shown in the theatres as 1.85:1

so yes been cropped for whatever reason going onto blu-ray.

1.85:1 is actually the most common aspect ratio films shot on since the 1990s so be a bit silly to ignore those :)
http://en.wikipedia....t_ratio_(image)

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 04:56 PM

its 16:9 (or 1.78:1) on blu-ray yes, so yeah not the original aspect ratio as per imdb
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119643/

which was shown in the theatres as 1.85:1

so yes been cropped for whatever reason going onto blu-ray.

1.85:1 is actually the most common aspect ratio films shot on since the 1990s so be a bit silly to ignore those :)
http://en.wikipedia....t_ratio_(image)


Yeh but there are waaaaay too many 1.85:1 films that are released as 16:9 to list here, there's hundreds.... pretty much everything released by Warner and Paramount do this. In those cases we're only losing a few % of picture info, if that. With cropped scope films we're losing tons of picture. When I said Universal have never cropped, I meant never cropped a scope film. None of the main studios do, at least in the US, that's why when we get the same transfer as the US it's a good thing. It's mainly dodgy AU distributors like Icon, Roadshow and Eagle Entertainment that screw things up.

Edited by XxDeadlyxX, 06 March 2011 - 05:05 PM.


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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:15 PM

Good thread... Although I wish it didn't have to exist :(

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:33 PM

Sorry I meant crapped. Wasn't it crapped?
;)

(Cheers. Thought the opposite before now).



Oh, you'll have to ask yorac about that one :lol:

Yep it was crapped then recrapped with the extended version, thank god the PQ was good though as I don't know whether we could handle it being remastered, recrapped and in a JB 20% off sale......... :ninja:


don't own any of the titles mentioned but thanks for the list Xx...........

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:37 PM

Yeh but there are waaaaay too many 1.85:1 films that are released as 16:9 to list here, there's hundreds.... pretty much everything released by Warner and Paramount do this. In those cases we're only losing a few % of picture info, if that. With cropped scope films we're losing tons of picture. When I said Universal have never cropped, I meant never cropped a scope film. None of the main studios do, at least in the US, that's why when we get the same transfer as the US it's a good thing. It's mainly dodgy AU distributors like Icon, Roadshow and Eagle Entertainment that screw things up.


all very unfortunate, its the same that theyre doing to movies and other programs on TV.....
http://www.dtvforum....&...t&p=1672959

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:40 PM

all very unfortunate, its the same that theyre doing to movies and other programs on TV.....
http://www.dtvforum....&...t&p=1672959


Yeh, last night I caught a glimpse of The Incredibles on Prime in 2.35:1 ratio, I couldn't believe it! :lol: Very rare for the commercial stations to show in OAR.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 08:22 PM

Excellent list and idea, I was thinking of the same thing... Could become an excellent resource!

Edited by judge25, 07 March 2011 - 11:26 AM.


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Posted 08 March 2011 - 06:08 PM

meet joe black, watched it last night. great movie. but yeah is a cropped release.

uk edition actually. not sure if released in oz :)


Well I received this title today. Have a check again, it's in 1.85:1 ratio ;) , not 1.78:1.

I thought that sounded a bit odd for Universal to release in 1.78:1, I'd never seen them do that before.

Transfer of the title looks typical for Universal though, not the best master and some DNR/EE.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 11:59 AM

Update: Received Red Baron UK today and it's in OAR :)

Hmm Skyline comes out next week here.... released by Roadshow... I wonder if that will be cropped <_<

Edited by XxDeadlyxX, 10 March 2011 - 12:09 PM.


#23 MichaelCPE

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 12:45 PM

The Australian film Road Train has just been released on BD.

The back of the BD says 1:78, the IMDb says original is 2:35.

If the back of the BD right, then this is either cropped or open-matte.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 01:05 PM

The Australian film Road Train has just been released on BD.

The back of the BD says 1:78, the IMDb says original is 2:35.

If the back of the BD right, then this is either cropped or open-matte.


Thanks for the info, will try to pick it up soon ($23.99 at JB) or hopefully borrow it to check it out.

Looks like it's released by Pinnacle Films which isn't a good sign....

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 10:56 AM

Does anyone have Skyline or My Soul To Take? Are they cropped? I was in the video store yesterday and had a look at Skyline packaging and I don't think it's cropped as it says 2.40:1 on the back and although it's Roadshow, it's released by Hopscotch Entertainment which have generally been pretty reliable.

Haven't received The Collector yet from the JB sale (also Roadshow) but I have Road Train coming, don't have high hopes for that one.

Also I can confirm that The Loved Ones (Aussie movie) released this week is NOT cropped, well done Madman! (they cropped Ten Canoes).

EDIT: Also added Planet Terror to the list as being open matte.

Edited by XxDeadlyxX, 17 March 2011 - 01:16 PM.