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#1 willwalk

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 04:09 PM

When seven's new 2nd channel launches in November, don't expect it to come to Darwin for a long time. Southern cross is not likely to relay the channel to Darwin anytime soon.

As it stands Darwin is likely to be stuck with the same current number of channels as now when seven launches its new channel.

The local networks will probably claim that its not profitable to beam ONE HD, go! and Seven's new channels, because it claims the market is too small to justify it.

It's not my view, I don't share that view but I suspect that the view that the networks have. It's possible that GO! and ONE HD may never come to Darwin, very possible.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:26 PM

When seven's new 2nd channel launches in November, don't expect it to come to Darwin for a long time. Southern cross is not likely to relay the channel to Darwin anytime soon.

As it stands Darwin is likely to be stuck with the same current number of channels as now when seven launches its new channel.

The local networks will probably claim that its not profitable to beam ONE HD, go! and Seven's new channels, because it claims the market is too small to justify it.

It's not my view, I don't share that view but I suspect that the view that the networks have. It's possible that GO! and ONE HD may never come to Darwin, very possible.

William Walker


I have just sent a email to Southern cross concerning the seven network's new 2nd channel and ONE HD's arrival to Darwin, that is all I can do. But I cannot promise that Darwinites will be very happy. I had a close look at the ads from DDT TEN, some of them are non-animated comunity based ads similar to a newspaper classifield, and I honestly have to conclude that DDT Ten is not ready to host ONE HD yet - that is my view alone, others can disagree with me. The station has to show me that it is capable of playing out ads such as WOW!, subways and all other true proper business fully animated ads before it can convince me that DDT is ready to host ONE HD. I can't image anybody watching ONE HD with local non-animated community ads, can you? I can't.

Dunno about when GO! will start here even if the local nine manager claims that it will be ready later this year. I wish I knew. I can only try but I cannot promise.

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:29 PM

Darwin appears very likely to be ommitted from the Seven Network's new 2nd channel plans.

The new seven network 2nd channel will not make to central austtralians either.

That's the price to pay to reside in the NT.

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#4 RooBoy73

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 08:48 PM

Darwin appears very likely to be ommitted from the Seven Network's new 2nd channel plans.

The new seven network 2nd channel will not make to central austtralians either.

That's the price to pay to reside in the NT.

William Walker



Naw Will,

Thats the price we pay for not living in Australia*. There was a news story the other day on ABC about a push for Mt Isa to join the NT. So far, everyone I've talked to here asks but one question, "When?"

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 09:20 PM

Naw Will,

Thats the price we pay for not living in Australia*. There was a news story the other day on ABC about a push for Mt Isa to join the NT. So far, everyone I've talked to here asks but one question, "When?"

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(*) The practical limits of Australia cease any further west than the great dividing range.

Digital free-to-air in Sydney I get Seven, SevenHD, Nine, NineHD, GO!, Ten, One, OneHD, ABC1, ABC2, ABCHD, SBS1, SBS2, SBSHD, NITV, Expo, Australian Christian Channel, Teachers TV, Parliament Reps, Parliament Senate, and will shortly get Seven's 3rd channel and ABC3. It is pathetic that NT and remote QLD and SA are being severely left behind. Sydney get's NITV free-to-air and Darwin doesn't - pathetic.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 09:26 PM

Naw Will,

Thats the price we pay for not living in Australia*. There was a news story the other day on ABC about a push for Mt Isa to join the NT. So far, everyone I've talked to here asks but one question, "When?"

Roo.



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Off topic. I'm not really that surprised there are calls for Mount isa to join the NT. Brisbane constantly ignores Mount Isa over a lot of issues, daylight saving* was one issue but there are many more.

Mount isa has a similar but more extreme climate than Tennant creek, and the landscape while hilly is more similar to the NT.

I myself used to be a resident of Mount Isa when I was a baby boy. Moved there with my parent when my dad found a job in Mount Isa in early 1972 and went back to the east coast at Ayr near Townsville in Queensland in 1973. My dad hated Mount isa. He said the climate is too dusty, too dry, too hot. When I first toured the NT in 1996, I quickly got used to it even though I was a stranger there, becasue the landscape of western Queensland and NT looks very similar. I decided to head back in 1997 and again in 2003 because I was hooked to it. Not only did I grow up in the east coast but I also grew up in the NT like landscape as well. So you could say NT was my 2nd home even though I grew up in Mount Isa. When I moved to Darwin I quickly found myself accustomed to Darwin in just 2 weeks, really quickly because I was very used to the NT landscape.

Back on topic, Mount isa has basically the same TV service as Alice springs.

William Walker

*QLD had 2 trials of daylight saving. One was in 1971/72 and another was in 1989 1990 and 1991 but in a 1992 referendum daylight saving was resoundly rejected because the people of Mount isa, western qld and north qld don't want a bar of daylight saving. I presume that was exactly the same reason why daylight saving was resoundly rejected in WA earlier this year in a May referendum.

I hope I have explained everything to make it clear why I reside in NT and Darwin.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 10:50 PM

Digital free-to-air in Sydney I get Seven, SevenHD, Nine, NineHD, GO!, Ten, One, OneHD, ABC1, ABC2, ABCHD, SBS1, SBS2, SBSHD, NITV, Expo, Australian Christian Channel, Teachers TV, Parliament Reps, Parliament Senate, and will shortly get Seven's 3rd channel and ABC3. It is pathetic that NT and remote QLD and SA are being severely left behind. Sydney get's NITV free-to-air and Darwin doesn't - pathetic.



Indeed.

In fact I sent a letter to the Free-TV "Save Our Sport" campaign recently saying that until all Australians can get access to ALL the commercials it is actually fairer to let the pay-tv operators have access to the "anti-siphon" list because they're the only broadcasters that can actually reach 100% of the population.

Yeah, I know, little Granny can't see the tennis because she can't afford pay-tv blah, blah.... Er, anyone noticed what the local pubs/clubs show?? Gran can pop down to the local RSL/Bowls club/Knitting Circle and see the tennis she so craves as well as socialise with others that enjoy her intrest in sport. She is under no obligation to purchase an alcoholic beverage (although, my Gran would have), she is under no obligation to gamble, the only cost to her would be transport to and from the club/pub and maybe a membership.

Call me an evil capitalist if you will (actually a socialist at heart) but as far as I can see it is the pay-tv operators that are providing the coverage that the commercial networks are unwilling to provide.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see all my sport for free on FTA tv, but under the current regulations I can't even pay to get channel 10.

Roo.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 11:02 PM

Indeed.

In fact I sent a letter to the Free-TV "Save Our Sport" campaign recently saying that until all Australians can get access to ALL the commercials it is actually fairer to let the pay-tv operators have access to the "anti-siphon" list because they're the only broadcasters that can actually reach 100% of the population.

Yeah, I know, little Granny can't see the tennis because she can't afford pay-tv blah, blah.... Er, anyone noticed what the local pubs/clubs show?? Gran can pop down to the local RSL/Bowls club/Knitting Circle and see the tennis she so craves as well as socialise with others that enjoy her intrest in sport. She is under no obligation to purchase an alcoholic beverage (although, my Gran would have), she is under no obligation to gamble, the only cost to her would be transport to and from the club/pub and maybe a membership.

Call me an evil capitalist if you will (actually a socialist at heart) but as far as I can see it is the pay-tv operators that are providing the coverage that the commercial networks are unwilling to provide.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see all my sport for free on FTA tv, but under the current regulations I can't even pay to get channel 10.

Roo.


I don't even recall receiving NITV in Darwin's FTA from the local Berrimah transmitter, never. All I get is ABC 1 (2, 21 and 23), ABC2 (22), ABC HD (20), SBS (3), SBS TWO (32), SBS HD (30), NINE SD (9), NINE HD (90), SCTV SD (7, 77), SCTV HD (70), DDT TEN SD (10) and DDT HD (Not ONE HD but SC 10'S Nature Loop) on 1.

I don't even know what NTIV looks like, never seen it before.

William Walker

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 11:24 PM

...NITV, Expo, Australian Christian Channel, Teachers TV, Parliament Reps, Parliament Senate

note that these are all on the datacasting "trial" and have no guarantee of continuing.

NITV is available FTA on satellite Australia wide. So is Expo (but I doubt anyone cares).