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#26 isilver

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 10:41 AM

I'm curious if people think the money saved by mounting it yourself is worth the effort?
I like to save money where I can - I'd like to put the extra money into the TV itself, but I'm concerned that I'll get halfway into it and wish I'd just paid to have it installed professionally.
Any comments from people who don't have much handyman experience?


Like most around the home DIY tasks, it takes a bit of confidence in yourself to actually commit to doing this sort of work, this is why I'm on the look out for recommendations for an experienced installer! Plus an installer should have insurance in case something goes wrong, the DIYer won't and will be responsible for replacing their TV if it does fall off the wall post install!

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 09:06 PM

Like most around the home DIY tasks, it takes a bit of confidence in yourself to actually commit to doing this sort of work, this is why I'm on the look out for recommendations for an experienced installer! Plus an installer should have insurance in case something goes wrong, the DIYer won't and will be responsible for replacing their TV if it does fall off the wall post install!

This is true, confidence in your own abilities counts for a bit.
But IMHO a wall mounted screen looks a whole lot better than table top stand mounted one, and it also has the effect of reducing the feeling like the screen is too big and imposing into a room - a consideration that many need to make for WAF

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 08:00 PM

I have a 50PZ800A and have mounted it with a Selby mount... My learnings ...

1. The mount does have a reasonable level of adjustment once mounted - probably 10cm +/-. Make sure you take advantage of this - ie. you could possibly mount low and move up by up to 20cm (or vice versa). Very useful as you don't really know till its up there!
2. I used dynabolts not the ones supplied - maybe a little paranoid but they didn't look that strong.
3. You will need a 90 degree hdmi connector - which weren't all that common surprisingly but found one at dick smith's.
4. Mine is 900mm high which works well with my slouch (or lying down) posture on the lounge. Also needed a little more space for my soundbar which needs to be reasonable unobstructed. I can't see anyone wanting it any higher than this to be honest.
5. Working out the height / measurements is stressful but the picture quality is mindblowing after!


Some good pointers there by stbguy in relation to Selby mounts.

#29 simopimo

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:43 AM

One tip:

If you are mounting through a drywall into a stud (particularly if your walls are timber), grease up the end of the screw - I use Lanocote anti-seize, but I guess any grease should do. Why? I've snapped bolts more times than I care to mention...

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:47 AM

Newer prefab pine based house frames i would have thought are soft wood and be easy to screw into, especially if you drill a pilot hole.

However, this is a good tip for older houses with hard wood frames

#31 gbang007

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:17 AM

so now you tell me hehe. I mounted my own 37" pana last week and it was my first go. Only snapped one screw, other than that, it went well. nice and level too. i can now enjoy my own work with a beer.

One tip:

If you are mounting through a drywall into a stud (particularly if your walls are timber), grease up the end of the screw - I use Lanocote anti-seize, but I guess any grease should do. Why? I've snapped bolts more times than I care to mention...


Anyone wanting to do it, just have a bit of confidence, although i didn't hide my cabling behind the wall, the mounting part is pretty easy. easier than i thought.

#32 foxtail

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:23 AM

Anyone know what the DSE price is of the 90° HDMI connector?.

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 12:07 PM

Anyone know what the DSE price is of the 90° HDMI connector?.

Foxy, they're pretty well priced

900 HDMI elbow - $9.98
Female-Female HDMI adaptor - $9.98

Edited by diesel, 21 November 2008 - 12:09 PM.


#34 foxtail

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 12:16 PM

Foxy, they're pretty well priced

900 HDMI elbow - $9.98
Female-Female HDMI adaptor - $9.98

Excellent, thank you.

#35 simopimo

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 06:18 PM

Newer prefab pine based house frames i would have thought are soft wood and be easy to screw into, especially if you drill a pilot hole.

However, this is a good tip for older houses with hard wood frames


One section of my house is newer and is framed with soft wood... and I also had a snap there when I was drilling in for a clothes dryer. I think that a lot can depend on the speed of the screwing in too. I've been drilling a pilot hole each time too.

Meh, maybe it's just me. I just know now to always grease up the screw every time, hard or soft wood. I'm sure a pro could get it right every time.

#36 diesel

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 08:05 PM

I've updated the OP with the feedback and added some more suppliers/solutions etc

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 09:17 AM

3. Once you have sorted out the location, use a stud finder to locate the studs in a brick veneer wall, or maybe a magnet in a metal frame house. Studs are usually 450-600mm apart. If they are off centre, you can either mount the bracket off centre and there’s enough panel width to ensure the TV will be centred once mounted, or attach some thick plywood to the studs, and then attach the wall mount to the plywood.


Thanks for the guide diesel - just what I've been looking for! I have a question regarding the use of plywood, which I will need to do because of stud placement. How thick do you think it should be, for a 47" LCD, approx 36kg? I'm guessing coach bolts would be my best bet for fixing this piece to the studs.


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#38 isilver

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 11:28 AM

Well I had my 52" LCD professionally wall mounted with hidden wiring yesterday and I didn't have any problems at all with it!! That's the benefit of knowing your own skill set - find someone who can do what you can't (or don't want to do)!

I used a business called AV Design Solutions and was very happy with the cost of the install and the workmanship provided, and would recommend them for anyone who wants a professional job done of having their TV wall mounted.

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 12:38 PM

I have a question regarding the use of plywood, which I will need to do because of stud placement. How thick do you think it should be, for a 47" LCD, approx 36kg? I'm guessing coach bolts would be my best bet for fixing this piece to the studs.

Coach bolts should be fine. As for the thicknwess of the plywood, I would suggest you speak to the supplier (they are better qualified than what I could ever be). In Sydney we have a company called Mr Ply & Wood who specialise in ply. I remeber as a kid I bought skateboard blanks from them and shaped my own boards B)

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 01:40 PM

Well I had my 52" LCD professionally wall mounted with hidden wiring yesterday and I didn't have any problems at all with it!! That's the benefit of knowing your own skill set - find someone who can do what you can't (or don't want to do)!

I used a business called AV Design Solutions and was very happy with the cost of the install and the workmanship provided, and would recommend them for anyone who wants a professional job done of having their TV wall mounted.



How much was the install isilver, if you don't mind me asking? Did they place new powerpoint and/or cabling for speakers and/or aerial?

...just thinking of doing similar for when I get my plasma.....

BC

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 01:48 PM

Well I had my 52" LCD professionally wall mounted with hidden wiring yesterday and I didn't have any problems at all with it!! That's the benefit of knowing your own skill set - find someone who can do what you can't (or don't want to do)!

I used a business called AV Design Solutions and was very happy with the cost of the install and the workmanship provided, and would recommend them for anyone who wants a professional job done of having their TV wall mounted.



If you don't mind me asking what was the ball park cost of the install?

#42 isilver

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 07:04 PM

How much was the install isilver, if you don't mind me asking? Did they place new powerpoint and/or cabling for speakers and/or aerial?

...just thinking of doing similar for when I get my plasma.....

BC


The charge was only $150 - bear in mind I already had the wall mount ($70 from Selby Acoustics) and all the hdmi and other cables I needed so didn't have to buy anything. He charges more if he has to bring someone with him to lift the TV onto the mount, but as I was there I didn't have to pay the extra.

Here's some pictures of the TV and surround setup after the TV was mounted and before I had the chance to put any doyleys, family photos or vases on the entertainment unit :P .

The cables go from behind the TV, down inside the wall and out again at the bottom through a wall plate that has a 4cm circular hole in it for the cords to come through.

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 09:03 AM

WALL MOUNT INSTALLATION GUIDE 101


Which Wall Mount?
2. Tilt – larger profile than fixed and allow downward tilt of 150-300 (some are fixed at an angle, others are adjustable, and some also allow upward tilt).
Pros: can reduce reflections on plasma screens by tilting downward. Allow easier movement for adding new cables in the future
Cons: usually stick out from the wall a little more that a fixed mount - ~90-150mm


Firstly great guide.

Just in relation to Tilt mounts, in terms of accessing the cables, would one that Tilts UP be preferable ?

Are the Jaycar mounts the same as the Selby mounts ? They look very similar.

Edited by Zelig96, 01 January 2009 - 11:14 AM.


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Posted 01 January 2009 - 02:50 PM

One that allows you to swing the TV up out of the way would be better, but this is still really a two person job on a 50" plasma - trust me

As for similarities between jaycar and Selby mounts, I can't comment as I don't know, but which two were you comparing?

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 03:38 PM

The Jaycar CW2824 (http://www.jaycar.co...w.asp?ID=CW2824) looks very similar to the Selby PLB109 (http://www.selbyacou...amp;i=240736560) - check the enlarged pics for both.

The biggest difference is the Jaycar is rated to 80kg and the Selby is rated to 60kg.


Also, the Jaycar CW2822 (http://www.jaycar.co...w.asp?ID=CW2822) looks very similar to the Selby PLB103 (http://www.selbyacou...amp;i=240723806).

Edited by Zelig96, 01 January 2009 - 03:41 PM.


#46 diesel

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 09:56 PM

They do look similar. Maybe from the same supplier.

If you are going for a articulated model, you'll have no worries with adding new cables...except for pulling the cable through the wall.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 03:10 PM

Does anyone use the Atdec Articulated Arm wall mount for 37"-63" screens (See here: http://www.atdec.com...culated-Arm.seo)

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 06:49 PM

I used a business called AV Design Solutions and was very happy with the cost of the install and the workmanship provided, and would recommend them for anyone who wants a professional job done of having their TV wall mounted.


I too used AV Design Solutions recently and couldnt be happier :D i had an antenna installed as well as getting my plasma and soundbar wall mounted and all in all very happy with all of the work.You could tell that Sam from AV really enjoys his job and takes pride in ensuring that all his work is spot on,he is also a really nice guy :) will post some pics soon.

Cheers Ryan

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 07:39 AM

Sorry if this has already been asked.

What do you believe is the better looking colour for a wall mount for a black LCD on a cream wall.
Black or silver?

Thanks

#50 isilver

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 10:08 AM

Sorry if this has already been asked.

What do you believe is the better looking colour for a wall mount for a black LCD on a cream wall.
Black or silver?

Thanks


I got a black mount (i think), it's not noticeable when it's installed unless you actauly go and have a look behind the TV, so I don't think it would really matter unless you are quite particular.