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#3976 Pixels

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 08:51 PM

I came up with this US$79.95 plus shipping http://www.tristatem...-polarizer.aspx

Aussie Bigwarehouse want $251.02 http://spares.bigwar...h=147_541_54676

At 79.95, I would be willing to get one just to experiment with! esp. while the $ is better than parity and esp. if they want near on a g for the correct part!!

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 11:38 PM

I came up with this US$79.95 plus shipping http://www.tristatem...-polarizer.aspx

Aussie Bigwarehouse want $251.02 http://spares.bigwar...h=147_541_54676


I finally got my optical block apart today and the parts on ours look a lot different.

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Not even 100% sure if that is the polariser, I'd say about 98%. That's from the blue one. Opened the green one too and it was completely clear. Didn't get time to crack open the red due to unexpected visitors. The blue one was kinda blue when I held it up to my monitor but when I tilted it slightly it turned the colour it is in the picture.

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#3978 Pixels

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:27 AM

Looks like a blue polariser and yes, a very different frame. Think I'll put my theory of 'experimenting' on hold for the moment. :)
Colour wheels also look an odd colour until you look through them squarely.
I take it that it's held by screws in each corner and the 'tab' is for easy removal and to rotate it for correct alignment before tightening the screws?

I would leave red alone, you might need it as a reference for alignment.
What's yours like for dust? There seems to be some concern with the lcd rptv's and dust intrusion into the optics.

Can you see any areas indicating deterioration of the filter like at this website
http://sites.google....l-block-defects



edit: - ppl at avs forums have tried using the vermillion flim from http://www.anchoropt...duct.cfm?id=386
with great success.
The avs thread is here:
http://www.avsforum....=1157338&page=2

Might hunt around local camera/film suppliers and see what I can find.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:24 AM

I couldn't see any defects on them at all. They looked perfect but obviously they aren't...
Didn't find any dust in the optics surprisingly, all seemed to be sealed up rather well.

The polariser snaps onto the little LCD as seen here http://i.imgur.com/4IgOK.jpg - it doesn't seem like there is any movement room for calibration when screwing it back in but there must be.

Great find on the UV filter! I'll also see if I can find somewhere local. I notice that site no longer has the $6 version of the vermillion. Must've found that thread.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:39 PM

I tried pla imaging here in Perth, but no luck. He wasn't sure where I would find just plain vermillion film only.
It's a bit unsettling that you can't see any problem with yours. Would be nice to know for sure where the problem is before attacking anything.
Maybe an optical specialist can test them to see if there's a problem?

I see that two of the slotted holes are sitting on pins. Does seem like the filter would be able to rotate around it's center to get the filter 'in phase' with the sxrd panel. It seems a little off square in your pic and would be able to be rotated back to square?
Good that they seem well sealed against dust, What filtering is there for the incoming air? Is there much dust buildup on the fan drum?

"I notice that site no longer has the $6 version of the vermillion. Must've found that thread."

lol, I noticed that too and thought the same thing. He's had a run on Vermillion!! :)

But, we have to be sure what's wrong with yours first.
You said previously that your tint is over the whole screen. Is it evenly over the whole screen?
Do you have any blue at all on the screen? If not then maybe the blue sxrd panel has a problem.
If you have blue and it's even over the screen, just weak, then maybe it's an adjustment problem.

All of us have an uneven discolouration and in the case of lcd, the blue lcd panel itself can suffer, giving very blotchy results
It doesn't add up that you can't see anything wrong with the filter.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 12:33 AM

I'm starting to think its not the filter but the little LCD thing itself or a problem elsewhere in the optical block. I've been posting on AVSForum about this too and a guy gave me some good advice. http://www.avsforum....584936&page=794

Basically he said that our sets aren't like the ones seen in the repair guides and the problem isn't the filter. Doesn't seem like anyone has been able to pinpoint the exact cause though. The yellowish green (I can't see those colours too well) started off over about 70% of the screen in a strange pattern but evolved rather quickly to cover the whole screen evenly.

Today I reassembled it and messed up the convergence so now I have greenish yellow and colours out of alignment. Should not have taken the little filter looking things out, especially since its not like its an easy set to recalibrate. Not like others where you can have it running while making adjustments. Gotta put the silver box back on top which means you can't reach the things you need to. Will get it done though.

Called Sony too, they said they'd send a guy out if I paid and then get the part number and look it up etc. Pretty much the same story as others have told in the threads here.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:18 PM

I can't find the original post to quote but I'm now certain it's the C-Board. Had the TV running in pieces the other day so I could plug/unplug the R/G/B LCDs. Unplugging the blue one made no change at all. Wiggling the ribbon cable made it flicker blue but it was like the blue one wasn't doing anything at all.

Have now ordered a fresh board. $120 shipped - not exactly cheap but if it works I will be super happy.

(The other TV I picked up was a 3LCD model - KFsomethingsomething so it didn't have the right board)

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:41 AM

Have just noticed that page 199 is full and your replies are here on page 200. I've been refreshing page 199 wondering what happened to you! :)
Beware of importing anything from the US, their tv system is 60hz atsc and may not work on our 50hz dvb system.

After reading that thread, it seems that many sxrd's are suffering a total loss of a colour as per chuckF's response
"We've never come to a clear consensus here as to what causes the greenout problem on an SXRD, and Sony hasn't exactly been forthcoming. It's not a degenerative problem, on the SXRD's this problem happens suddenly."

It's actually a 'yellow out' problem. Red and green are ok [= yellow], just blue is lost altogether.
It's an odd coincidence that blue is suffering in both technologies [lcd v. sxrd] but for completely different reasons.
But mine is different [and yours too], in that the loss of blue on mine is in a broad arc over the left side of the screen only and is slowly degenerating.
I've had to back red and green off quite a bit to average out the problem.

The prism block is an interesting theory and may well be the problem in the sxrd's, though your strange pattern to total loss sounds more electronic than optical.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 06:23 PM

Well, the board was useless. $130 down the drain.

I swear when I plugged the blue LCD thing into one of the other sockets it worked. Tried it with both boards and got nothing. What really annoys me is if I'd acted a week earlier I could've got a complete optical block for $10 more than the board. Sadly by the time I went to order that had already sold.

So now I guess all that's left to try is a blue LCD. Also pretty much the same price as the board/OB. Sadly I can't afford to take another $130 punt for a while. Kicking myself so hard. Should not be having to do this at all. Never, ever want to own another Sony TV.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 07:32 PM

If you had paid a Sony service agent to repair your TV you would be happily watching it now, its not Sony's fault you wasted your time and money.

The SXRD chips are the same for each colour.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:17 PM

Unfortunately I can't afford a Sony service agent. I could buy a new TV for what they quoted me.

I put it back together and moved it into the spare room. Guess I will keep a lookout for other freebies I can harvest or wait until I have the cash for the part.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:49 PM

Fair enough, sorry to be so blunt in my response. Did you buy your SXRD new or pick it up cheap used hopping to fix it?

As far as I am concerned the 70" SXRD is still irreplaceable, so spending a couple of grand repairing it makes perfect sense. Yes you can buy a decent new TV for that money but not one that is comparable, even at more than double that price.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:45 PM

No problem. I bought it recently after seeing a friend's SXRD (which he's had no issues with, lucky). Looked around on the net and found out what I thought was the issue (the filter on the 3LCD models). Only paid $50 for it.

I would have no problem spending whatever the Sony repairer wants but sadly I just don't have that type of cash. I'm used to fixing things but mainly XBOX, PS3 etc (basically anything that involves soldering) so I thought it wouldn't be too difficult to fix. I was pretty mad at myself today when I realised I should've tested a bit more before jumping in and ordering a part.

Oh well. Live & learn. :)

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 08:19 PM

Hey guys!

5 years (between 12,000-13,000hrs) of use from my SXRD and it's replacement as of tonight sits in my home.
SXRD developed OB issue with what was it's second OB during this 5 year period. Called extended warranty on the last day of the warranty and repairer took it away. Repairer couldn't find a replacement OB so back to extended warranty who offered the Sharp 70"
It's no replacement for the SXRD, but screen size is very important to me so I was more than happy to take their offer. Considering the use I had from the SXRD, coming down of prices of TV's in general over this period and current value of the Sharp 70" I'm very happy with the outcome.
No other display imo compares to the SXRD even 5 years on. Loved the SXRD it was a great display!

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:01 AM

I always thought extended warranties were a con and have never really considered them. It's good to hear that in your case, at least, it was worth the paper it was written on.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 04:48 PM

I always thought extended warranties were a con and have never really considered them. It's good to hear that in your case, at least, it was worth the paper it was written on.


I don't ever take extended warranties on anything but TV's. Sharp gives a 3 year warranty and I extended this again to 5. Have to admit, on both occasions dealing with the extended warranty people was fast with zero issues. Second time the OB went I even asked for the same repairer as the first time and they had no issues with this. It was a completely different experience dealing with LG when my MW60 went. I swear I will never remove my sig! Worst company I have ever dealt with by the length of a couple of universes strung together!

Regarding the Sharp as some might want an opinion on the unit, I've read plenty of suggestion the Pano 65 would be better than the Sharp 70 but I view a great deal of HD content. For this it is actually quite good. SD imo is rubbish on any display of a decent size so if the Sharp is a little more rubbish than another, I'm not really fussed. It's still all rubbish isn't it? ;)

I was hoping the OB would be replaced on the SXRD and I would get another 2-3 years out of it and hopefully by then a decent replacement would come along. Didn't work out this way and even after a day with the new display, for myself, I already find I'm starting to accept the loss in PQ over the SXRD. I think the loss in screen size if I went with another display would've kept nagging at me till I actually purchased another 70" or bigger screen.

Good luck to everyone else who still has a working SXRD. I wouldn't personally be in any great rush to get rid of it as it really is a great display!

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 06:38 PM

I don't ever take extended warranties on anything but TV's. Sharp gives a 3 year warranty and I extended this again to 5. Have to admit, on both occasions dealing with the extended warranty people was fast with zero issues. Second time the OB went I even asked for the same repairer as the first time and they had no issues with this. It was a completely different experience dealing with LG when my MW60 went. I swear I will never remove my sig! Worst company I have ever dealt with by the length of a couple of universes strung together!

Regarding the Sharp as some might want an opinion on the unit, I've read plenty of suggestion the Pano 65 would be better than the Sharp 70 but I view a great deal of HD content. For this it is actually quite good. SD imo is rubbish on any display of a decent size so if the Sharp is a little more rubbish than another, I'm not really fussed. It's still all rubbish isn't it? ;)

I was hoping the OB would be replaced on the SXRD and I would get another 2-3 years out of it and hopefully by then a decent replacement would come along. Didn't work out this way and even after a day with the new display, for myself, I already find I'm starting to accept the loss in PQ over the SXRD. I think the loss in screen size if I went with another display would've kept nagging at me till I actually purchased another 70" or bigger screen.

Good luck to everyone else who still has a working SXRD. I wouldn't personally be in any great rush to get rid of it as it really is a great display!


What did the extended warranty cost you?

I was offered extended warranty on my SXRD but i regretfully knocked it back.

I have the green tinge creeping in,and a couple of months ago bought a new bulb (before the tinge came in)

I also spoke to the guy in the US who can supply me with the right OB and polariser. Im just deciding whether I replace it with something new (and essentially inferior) or take the chance to order it and fit it up myself and hope that i dont bugger the alignment,

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:11 PM

Hey guys!

5 years (between 12,000-13,000hrs) of use from my SXRD and it's replacement as of tonight sits in my home.
SXRD developed OB issue with what was it's second OB during this 5 year period. Called extended warranty on the last day of the warranty and repairer took it away. Repairer couldn't find a replacement OB so back to extended warranty who offered the Sharp 70"
It's no replacement for the SXRD, but screen size is very important to me so I was more than happy to take their offer. Considering the use I had from the SXRD, coming down of prices of TV's in general over this period and current value of the Sharp 70" I'm very happy with the outcome.
No other display imo compares to the SXRD even 5 years on. Loved the SXRD it was a great display!


Funny you got offered the Sharp. I was provided with the 65" HX925. Taking out the extended warranty on the SXRD was the first time ever that a warranty ever worked out for me. The HX925 picture is insanely great. Vibrant, sharp as anything, inky blacks (rivalling the best Kuros according to those who have had both), outstanding 3D. I was extremely sceptical before I got the unit but now couldn't be more pleased. 5" screen size loss was unfortunate but far outweighed by the quality of the picture. 3D was a nuisance so far as I was concerned prior to 2012 - but testing out 3D gaming and films has opened my eyes. It's fantastic. That all said, I do think that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder - it was quite a change from the soft cinematic picture I was used to previously ...

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:30 AM

I was lucky to get one of the last replacement light engines for my 70" a few months back and its working better than new. I did not expect it would be repairable so I purchased a projector to replace it as I had and still have no interest in a flat panel. If the warranty provider was not going to give a cash payout I planed on putting whatever they gave me on ebay and put the money raised towards the projector.

The $180 I paid for the warranty was well worth it in the end and the SXRD should now last long enough for a decent replacement to become available, but then again I said that 5 years ago. :mellow:

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:06 PM

What did the extended warranty cost you?

I was offered extended warranty on my SXRD but i regretfully knocked it back.

I have the green tinge creeping in,and a couple of months ago bought a new bulb (before the tinge came in)

I also spoke to the guy in the US who can supply me with the right OB and polariser. Im just deciding whether I replace it with something new (and essentially inferior) or take the chance to order it and fit it up myself and hope that i dont bugger the alignment,



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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:18 PM

Unfortunately my 70" SXRD has started to develop the dreaded yellow blob. Fortunately I have an extended warranty which runs out in early June. Like Owen and many others I really love the quality of this TV and would prefer to have it repaired rather than replaced. I understand from previous posters that the optical block can no longer be replaced and also that the optical block for the US versions of this SXRD are completely different. Have you discovered a compatible optical block and if so would you please advise me of the contact details.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 02:49 PM

What did the extended warranty cost you?

I also spoke to the guy in the US who can supply me with the right OB and polariser. Im just deciding whether I replace it with something new (and essentially inferior) or take the chance to order it and fit it up myself and hope that i dont bugger the alignment,


Hi GLO

It wasn't clear to whom my previous post was directed. I would be grateful if you would advise the contact details of the OB and polariser supplier in the US.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:59 AM

This youtube video is very informative -
Seems the problem is the blue sxrd panel itself. Re-aligning the panel for good convergence will be a mission!
Mine's now set to min red and green, max blue and still has a yellow cast that's getting worse by the day

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:35 AM

Mine has moved to an even yellow cast over the whole screen, which is a good thing as I have been able to tweak the grey scale back to being very acceptable.
Only the low lights have a slight yellow cast and it doesn't seem to be getting any worse. If it stays this way, I'll be content.
Besides, I simply have nowhere to put this behemoth atm to be able to work on it.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 02:02 PM

I am so sick to death of this TV. I ordered a new blue panel which arrived from the US yesterday. Plugged everything back in, switched it on. Nothing. The replacement part doesn't work either. Have now spent money on a new C-board and this new panel.

So. very. angry.

Edited by gen, 29 May 2012 - 02:36 PM.