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Old Como - South Yarra Transmitter Gets Turned Off Today 13/11/14 !


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#1 beeblebrox

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 08:18 AM

If you have no reception in Richmond, South Yarra, Prahran Hawthorn and surrounds then it maybe you need to retune your TV/STB for the new transmitter which is on Channels 40-45.

 

Some TV's you may  need to manually tune as they may also pcikup some small amount of signal from Mt Dandenong.

 

 



#2 beeblebrox

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 07:51 AM

Lots of  phone calls on this , it would appear most people are totally oblivious to this , didn't see any of the limited advertising and other than those that'd I'd told that it was going to happen most people have been totally unaware...   I wonder how many service calls are been responded to by the unscrupulous....



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Posted 17 November 2014 - 06:41 PM

The lack of advertising has been a feature of these retunes. Most of these retunes in very populated areas are during the reign of the Department of Communications and not the Steven Conroy's Department of Broadband, Communications and IT which set up the retune program.

 

Obviously there is no money for advertising.

 

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 10:02 PM

I've heard radio advertising for the retune in Melbourne, but it wasn't very specific.

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 10:46 AM

The way it should have been done is by a crawl across the bottom of the screen in the licence area involved on the affected networks. Something like "South Yarra and surrounds: Retune your receivers tomorrow otherwise this program will disappear."

 

It's all a bit late now, because nearly all the retunes have been done. Canberra is in two days time. ABC & SBS change to channels 8 and 7 respectively. I think that's the last one.

 

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 01:10 PM

Not sure if anyone else noticed, but quite a lot of flats around StKilda etc. were knocked out for four days when this happened. 

 

Not sure about the tech involved, but apparently some units were specifically tuned to some panels on the como tower (distributed network?). 

 

They climbed up the towers after the turn off and found out the couldn't retune this specialist equipment and it took 4 days to fly in replacement parts.

 

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Peter Gillespie



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 09:49 PM

The restack requires the retuning of the transmitter frequencies and the associated filterplexers between the transmitter output and the broadband antenna  except where there is a change from UHF to VHF such as SBS main transmitters in Capital cities excluding Darwin were a new VHF transmitter/filterplexer is required.

 

Nearly all translator, and some main country restack sites were changed on a single day.In some areas of Melbourne, Sydney and the Gold Coast there are large numbers of large MATV systems. These sites were given 3 months of simulcasting of the old and new RF channels. This was to allow the antenna installation industry to retune MATV systems without the users loosing program. If building managers did not get antenna installation companies to retune their amplifiers then they lose signals when the old transmitters are switched off.

 

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:28 PM

Not sure if anyone else noticed, but quite a lot of flats around StKilda etc. were knocked out for four days when this happened. 

 

Not sure about the tech involved, but apparently some units were specifically tuned to some panels on the como tower (distributed network?). 

 

They climbed up the towers after the turn off and found out the couldn't retune this specialist equipment and it took 4 days to fly in replacement parts.

 

Regards

 

Peter Gillespie

 

Aren't there a bunch of Opticomm-served apartments around there? (I know a few people who were looking when they were new a few years ago, but nobody who actually bought.)

 

IIRC, Opticomm do the insertion of FTA for their IPTV locally at each site/group of sites/estate, so it could well've been something to do with that.

 



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:27 AM

 

Aren't there a bunch of Opticomm-served apartments around there? (I know a few people who were looking when they were new a few years ago, but nobody who actually bought.)

 

IIRC, Opticomm do the insertion of FTA for their IPTV locally at each site/group of sites/estate, so it could well've been something to do with that.

 

 

Sounds about right. Although I'm at a loss as to why some company would bother doing location specific non standard FTA installs with custom hardware when you could just stick an aerial up like everyone else.

 

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Peter Gillespie



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:29 AM

Nearly all translator, and some main country restack sites were changed on a single day.In some areas of Melbourne, Sydney and the Gold Coast there are large numbers of large MATV systems. These sites were given 3 months of simulcasting of the old and new RF channels. This was to allow the antenna installation industry to retune MATV systems without the users loosing program. If building managers did not get antenna installation companies to retune their amplifiers then they lose signals when the old transmitters are switched off.

 

Alanh

 

Not this time. The issue had nothing to do on the receiving end. They got in some new equipment that couldn't be re-tuned (and was apparently overlooked) on the antenna and everyones reception came back on line.

 

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Peter Gillespie



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:23 AM

Weren't the old and new channels on the Como transmitter meant to be simulcasting for 6 weeks (apart from 31)? How come the problem only occurred at the very end?

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:30 AM

Weren't the old and new channels on the Como transmitter meant to be simulcasting for 6 weeks (apart from 31)? How come the problem only occurred at the very end?

 

I don't know all the story but I believe we are talking about some equipment that is bolted onto the como tower for broadcasting (not sure if it takes its feed from the tower then sends it out in a different way to certain units etc.)  Anyway it was just overlooked and not noticed until the old feed got turned off. Then they found they had to replace the hardware involved.

 

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Peter Gillespie



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Posted 22 November 2014 - 08:37 AM

Have been too busy with other stuff to follow up with txa on what happened...

Haven't seen any an issues which is one thing the were concerned about...

Lots of TVs with new signal checking , automatically retuning and picking up some channels from mt Dandenong and some from Como stuffing things around though