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#76 Chopsus

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 11:18 PM

Have the Xtreamer products fallen out of favor? I still have one of the original units and due to upgrade while this unit is still going strong it is a little clunky the only thing it won't play is iso (I think) but again I have it it for over 4 years and never updated the firmware.


They had LOTs if quality control issues and zero after sales support ... Kept making promises they never delivered on in full.

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#77 vintage1972

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 04:25 PM

Anyone have an old media player they want to get rid of? PCH C300 maybe?



#78 K1LL3M

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:47 PM

Anyone have an old media player they want to get rid of? PCH C300 maybe?

Na, I really like all mine, in fact I need to buy a new PSU for one of the C200s (its only like $27 + postage) 


Edited by K1LL3M, 06 May 2014 - 08:47 PM.


#79 vintage1972

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 09:22 PM

Sure u dont wanna move it along lol



#80 yorac

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 09:39 PM

Still loving my Dune................ :thumbsup:



#81 grb

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 06:57 AM

Bringing up an oldish thread.. Recently got a CuBox i2-eX and am running OpenELEC 5 and so far it does everything very well.

Coming from a raspberry pi running raspbmc which did the job but was limited in CPU power and didn't do HD audio bitstreaming.

Significantly faster than the rpi. Built-in IR receiver just worked with Media Centre remote. DTS-MA and TrueHD bitstreaming works perfectly for me which is a step up from the rpi.

Apparently the UI running on the quad core CuBoxTV is even better. Might have to get one for the other room :)

http://www.solid-run.com/cuboxtv/

Reasonably priced, too.


Edited by grb, 16 January 2015 - 03:57 PM.


#82 HomerJ

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 01:59 PM

I tried an Intlel NUC with openElec (XBMC/Kodi install on a tiny Linux based OS, only need 200MB to install and some additional space for the media databases, so a 30GB SSD is way big enough).

Intel NUC (mine is the i3 version) has two USB 3.0 sockets, HDMI and Display Port and 1GB Ethernet ( you can fit an optional wireless card). Also has IR remote reader. All in a box about 100mm square and 30mm high.

Anyway, As I said in an earlier post, I primarily use my media player for music (multichannel audio only and 5.1 Music concerts). I loved the Mede8er and M8 IPad remote app BUT I could not navigate through my music collection while playing a music video. I reported this to Mede8er and the app developer but they wouldn't fix it (Mede8er firmware).

XBMC (now Kodi) on the NUC with any of its IPad remote app's does allow me to navigate through my albums or music video tracks while watching or listening to something (the TV/projector is independent to the IPad app screen), in fact I found an app that allows me to make a 'play queue' (playlist) 'on the fly' that can have a mixture or video music or audio only tracks.

The app is called XBMC Music Remote Pro. Worth a try if you have XBMC/Kodi and you play music and/or music videos: http://www.xbmcmusicremote.com

Edited by HomerJ, 16 January 2015 - 02:08 PM.


#83 HomerJ

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 02:13 PM

Bringing up an oldish thread.. Recently got a CuBox i2-eX and am running OpenELEC 5 and so far it does everything very well.

http://www.solid-run.com/cuboxtv/
Reasonably priced, too.

Thanks mate. This looks great. Cheaper than a NUC and runs XBMC/Kodi. I think I'll buy one to try out as I wanting to get a media player in 3 bedrooms here.

Edit: hang on... So it doesn't support decoding DTS-HDMA, Dolby TrueHD etc so no good for my media then. Need to fire off am email.

I'm really impressed with XBMC/Kodi and 3rd party apps for it. (Only gripe is I'd like to have a bit more control over movie poster art it auto downloads).

Edited by HomerJ, 16 January 2015 - 02:21 PM.


#84 K1LL3M

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 03:33 PM

(Only gripe is I'd like to have a bit more control over movie poster art it auto downloads).

One word ... Ember....full control over movie art

http://wiki.embermed...title=Main_Page

Separately if we are reviving an old thread, take a look at the "Open Hour Chameleon" streamer; An Android based XBMC streamer from the people who bought you the Popcorn Hour, and only $149 USD

http://www.cloudmedi...-hour/chameleon

Edited by K1LL3M, 16 January 2015 - 03:34 PM.


#85 grb

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 03:55 PM

Thanks mate. This looks great. Cheaper than a NUC and runs XBMC/Kodi. I think I'll buy one to try out as I wanting to get a media player in 3 bedrooms here.

Edit: hang on... So it doesn't support decoding DTS-HDMA, Dolby TrueHD etc so no good for my media then. Need to fire off am email.

I'm really impressed with XBMC/Kodi and 3rd party apps for it. (Only gripe is I'd like to have a bit more control over movie poster art it auto downloads).

 

It supports HD audio bitstreaming over HDMI, but I don't think it can decode HD audio and output PCM.


Edited by grb, 16 January 2015 - 03:58 PM.


#86 HomerJ

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 03:56 PM

Thanks for the info/links

The Ember media app looks ok. I might have a play. Hasn't been updated since 2013 though. The real issue for me is Kodi stores the posters in its database instead of using my existing poster art, or I don't know yet how to do it...

The Chameleon media player looks promising but still in development. Seems it doesn't do HD audio pass through or decoding and also no 23.976Hz frame rate. Almost everything is 23.976... Sounds like these will be fixed but they have been discussing thee fixes for a few months and nothing resolved, yet.

#87 HomerJ

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 04:02 PM

It doesn't decode HD audio, but it will bitstream it just fine over HDMI.
 
Why would that be no good?

Two older HDMI TVs I have in other rooms can't decode HD audio. The NUC and Mede8er can decode HD 5.1 to stereo LPCM for such TVs.

Bitstream is fine for a home Theater setup for sure. I'm looking for another cheaper solution for standard TVs.

I tested a new 2014 Samsung TV for my father in a store this week and even that won't play DTS-HDMA only stanard DTS. wouldn't even read the core from the HDMA either. I had to buy him a horrible WDTV that would down convert to LPCM. I hate those things...

Edited by HomerJ, 16 January 2015 - 04:03 PM.


#88 grb

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 04:02 PM

I should also mention I originally ordered from solid-run.com but their shipping estimate was 3+ weeks so I got a refund and ordered from gpio.com.au instead.

 

http://www.gpio.com....i-starter-kits/

 

They had $20 off most of these until recently, and free express post shipping. Arrived next day :)



#89 grb

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 04:04 PM

Two older HDMI TVs I have in other rooms can't decode HD audio. The NUC and Mede8er can decode HD 5.1 to stereo LPCM for such TVs.

Bitstream is fine for a home Theater setup for sure. I'm looking for another cheaper solution for standard TVs.

I tested a new 2014 Samsung TV for my father in a store this week and even that won't play DTS-HDMA only stared DTS. wouldn't even read the core from the HDMA either. I had to buy him a horrible WDTV that would down convert to LPCM. I hate those things...

 

Right. In that case I believe it will just decode DTS core and output PCM. Don't think the difference would be noticable using TV speakers anyway :)



#90 HomerJ

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 04:59 PM

Right. In that case I believe it will just decode DTS core and output PCM. Don't think the difference would be noticable using TV speakers anyway :)


Thanks. If you get a chance could you please try DTS-HDMA and see if it does down convert and play as stereo on a non-DTS TV. Is that easy enough for you to try? If not I will contact the sales guys.

#91 grb

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 08:03 PM

Thanks. If you get a chance could you please try DTS-HDMA and see if it does down convert and play as stereo on a non-DTS TV. Is that easy enough for you to try? If not I will contact the sales guys.


Very easy.

I set Kodi's audio settings to 2.0 channel output and unchecked the options for "DTS/DTS-MA/TrueHD capable receiver" etc. and it was decoding DTS and sending 2 channel PCM to my receiver.

My receiver shows on its display what audio stream is being received so the CuBox was definitely doing the right thing.

#92 K1LL3M

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:30 AM

Thanks for the info/links

The Ember media app looks ok. I might have a play. Hasn't been updated since 2013 though. The real issue for me is Kodi stores the posters in its database instead of using my existing poster art, or I don't know yet how to do it...

The Chameleon media player looks promising but still in development. Seems it doesn't do HD audio pass through or decoding and also no 23.976Hz frame rate. Almost everything is 23.976... Sounds like these will be fixed but they have been discussing thee fixes for a few months and nothing resolved, yet.

All up to you, however

Ember is still being developed, they are working on next release (available in beta) and the current release works fine and is updated when necessary (twice last last year when they changed scraper sites api setup)

Ember lets you load your own art work that is already stored and lets you rescape stuff already obtained.

I dont have open hour but did ask the questions when considering purchasing and was advised it does passthrough HD audio (it doesnt decode it) and do 24p.

Edited by K1LL3M, 18 January 2015 - 10:32 AM.


#93 pgdownload

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 11:22 AM

The real issue for me is Kodi stores the posters in its database instead of using my existing poster art, or I don't know yet how to do it...

 

Using your own art work just needs the associated files to be correctly named.

 

You can start here

 

Regards

 

Peter Gillespie



#94 HomerJ

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 02:00 PM

Using your own art work just needs the associated files to be correctly named.
 
You can start here

Thanks Peter. Looks like I need to delete my thumb cache to resolve the issue I'm having (although I suspect the issue I have was originally caused by an early Kodi beta).

I guess a developer decided the file name should be a CRC of the folder name which seemed like a good idea at the time but doesn't help the user at all. Why not use the movie name or original folder name after all we can use very long file names in modern operating systems.

Edited by HomerJ, 18 January 2015 - 05:24 PM.


#95 HomerJ

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 02:03 PM

All up to you, however
Ember is still being developed, they are working on next release (available in beta) and the current release works fine and is updated when necessary (twice last last year when they changed scraper sites api setup)
Ember lets you load your own art work that is already stored and lets you rescape stuff already obtained.
I dont have open hour but did ask the questions when considering purchasing and was advised it does passthrough HD audio (it doesnt decode it) and do 24p.


Thanks for the follow up K1LL3M. I will give Ember a go and keep my eye on the OpenHour player. It does look interesting.

#96 HomerJ

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 02:04 PM

Very easy.
I set Kodi's audio settings to 2.0 channel output and unchecked the options for "DTS/DTS-MA/TrueHD capable receiver" etc. and it was decoding DTS and sending 2 channel PCM to my receiver.
My receiver shows on its display what audio stream is being received so the CuBox was definitely doing the right thing.


Thanks. That's good news!

#97 grb

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 05:11 PM

Thanks. That's good news!

No probs. Anything else that would be useful to test let me know.

I'm really happy with the cubox so far, will probably grab a couple of quad core i4 boxes for media players in the new house in the next little while.

I need to sus out the CEC situation, too, because the plan is to have these boxes in my comms rack and using one remote for TV/kodi.